Chapter 53 Without the Chinese Communist Party, there would be no Cambodia 1965

Journalist: “You assisted Vietnam against the U.S., and you also assisted the Cambodian Communist Party, right?”

Mao: “Yes, the Cambodian Communist Party was nurtured by me, without the Chinese Communist Party, there would be no Cambodian Communist Party. After the massacre of 500,000 people in Indonesia on September 30, 1965, Pol Pot came to Beijing in less than two months, when the flower of Aidit fell and the flower of Pol Pot rose, just in time to go to work. Once he came to Beijing, he studied for 3 months, I called Chen Boda, Zhang Chunqiao preached to him, the barrel of the gun, class struggle, line struggle, dictatorship, etc., all taught him.”

Journalist: “You really preached Pol Pot, he could live and learn and be innovative?”

Mao: “Yes, Pol Pot is very resourceful, he murdered General Secretary Dusi started, and I got rid of Zhang Guotao, Liu Zhidan almost, but my wrist is higher than his? I invented food stamps, cloth stamps, he did not even use food stamps, cloth stamps, even banknotes are abolished, all in kind distribution, even marriage have a special match, usually separate men and women, male labor team, female labor team, completely collectivized, than my people’s commune is also progressive. In addition, I was rushing the youth students to the countryside, he was more thorough, all the city rushed to the countryside, Phnom Penh became an empty city, he also created propaganda, saying that the U.S. planes will bomb Phnom Penh, want everyone to hurry to the countryside.”

Journalist: “Pol Pot totally learned from you, you gave him a lot of assistance, right?”

Mao: “Yes, Cambodia shared everything, from head to toe, including guns, ammunition, clothing, medical supplies, everything was shipped from China, I kept giving him blood, he took Phnom Penh in 8 years. 1975 he came back to Beijing to see me, very beautiful. After my death, Hua Guofeng invited him to visit China in 1977, and more than 100,000 people welcomed him. But he killed too many people, Cambodia 8 million people, he killed whole, starved to death 2 million, the Vietnamese, Chinese also killed, provoked the Vietnamese resistance, the Vietcong took Phnom Penh in December 1978, he was forced to flee to the countryside to continue his activities.”

Journalist: “Deng Xiaoping launched the Sino-Vietnamese border counterattack in early 1979, counterattacking Vietnam what?”

Mao: “Deng Xiaoping was fighting back against the Viet Cong to fight the Cambodian Communist Party, not some border conflict issue. At that time Deng Xiaoping also inherited my line of assisting the Cambodian Communist Party, and Pol Pot was my most honored true disciple. Deng Xiaoping fought Vietnam and tried to punish the Viet Cong, but the result was that both sides were killed and wounded, and there was no victory or defeat, and it did not save Pol Pot.”

Journalist: “Killing 2 million is too bad to be worth saving, right?

Mao: “I don’t care how many people he killed, but it’s a pity that he, like me, engaged in continuous bloody purges among the top leadership. In the end, almost all of his subordinates turned against him. He was arrested, publicly tried, and sentenced to life imprisonment. He died the following year, officially reported as a result of a heart attack, but it is more likely that he committed suicide by taking poison. His nails changed color, and he was 73 years old at the time, in 1998. Because he learned about the news of being handed over to an international tribunal for trial, he was afraid of being exposed. It’s better that he died early, so as to avoid the trial exposing me.”

Journalist: “Did Deng Xiaoping give up on Cambodia after that?”

Mao: “Yes, Deng Xiaoping weaned all my foreign-aided communist parties in the 1980s, the Cambodian Communist Party is now gone, and there is the Cambodian Communist Party’s Holocaust Museum in Phnom Penh, which is freely accessible. China doesn’t have a museum of my own Holocaust yet.”