Chapter 14 Discussing politics while observing cattle and sheep herders

Journalist: “So, you hit the road again. What did you see along the way?”

Mao: “While on the road, we saw cows and sheep grazing, which sparked a discussion about the relationship between a free flock and the government as the shepherd. I believed that the government should act as a strong and capable shepherd, as it is necessary for the people to organize themselves. However, Xiao argued that an overly powerful government could undermine people’s freedom. The people are like the flock, but they should be the masters while the government serves as their servant. If the people rely too much on the government for care, they will lose their freedom.

We observed a few cows peacefully grazing, but when a cowherd with a long whip suddenly appeared, the cows scattered, causing disorder and preventing them from peacefully eating grass.
I believe that cattle must be controlled and must be whipped; shepherds must not be weak. The government must be strong. However, Xiao argues that if the government becomes too tyrannical, even the cattle and sheep will rise up in rebellion.”

Journalist: “Very interesting. You and Professor Xiao had different opinions, with him being more moderate while you took a stronger stance.”